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Already happening. They're pissed abortion is up. These alt-right/christian nationalists are trying to force their <s>'morals'</s> on the rest of us

"She Got an Abortion. So A Texas Cop Used 83,000 Cameras to Track Her Down"

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/she-got-abortion-so-te...

it gets worse federally.

"Blanche assures anti-abortion supporters that Dobbs will be ‘permanent in every single state’"

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/03/blanche-pledged-abo...

So what happens when they use cameras outside of usps to crate pretext so a crazy alt right state judge issues a warrant under the assumption that you picked up pills in the mail?

"AG nominee tells faith leaders he will take action to restrict abortion drug access"

https://stateline.org/2026/08/04/ag-nominee-tells-faith-lead...

And relevant to interstate weed, what about kava, peptides, 7oh? they literally have million+ plus stakes in pushing drugs. Even when it means blocking worse drugs (7oh) so they can push slightly less addictive but still harmful garbage.

"Senate inquiry suggests Trump administration softened kratom and tobacco policies in quid pro quo"

https://www.statnews.com/2026/08/05/senator-ron-wyden-invest...

"Trump Administration’s Fake Crackdown Leaves Most ‘Gas Station Heroin’ on the Shelves. According to March 2026 financial disclosures, Mullin invested between $500,001 and $1 million in Botanic Tonics, LLC, of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, the company that makes Feel Free Classic – the tonic found in the victim’s bedroom. Mullin reportedly urged officials to remove language from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) website warning of kratom’s harms."

https://www.citizen.org/news/trump-administrations-fake-crac...

It's all disgusting. Their voters deserve these consequences.

But they're forcing the rest of us to suffer.


46% dont even know what America 250 is... Worse 61% of <30 year olds dont' know. Dont like them but here is poll source (while not crazy maga i dont fully trust it's not push-poll or biased question structures wo reading full xtabs): https://www.cato.org/blog/gen-z-fails-basic-civics-quiz-amer...

a gross percent can't name the 3 branches or their Reps.


For the non-Americans in the room, is "America 250" anything other than the 250th anniversary of the war of independence?


The American Revolutionary War began [1] in 1775:

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_heard_round_the_world

As I understand it, America250 is the official organization/celebration [2] established [3] to commemorate the signing of the Declaration of Independence [4] in 1776:

> America250’s mission is to celebrate and commemorate the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, marking America’s Semiquincentennial.

[2] https://america250.org/about-america250/

> The U.S. Semiquincentennial Commission was established by Congress in 2016 to plan and orchestrate the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

[3] https://america250.org/about-america250/a250-leadership/

> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

[4] https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcrip...


The abandonment of their own guidelines is sad. Great post below visually outlines how they've totally funked macos drop downs.

Too many icons you can't focus, inconsistent color, icons are unclear, repeated, or have 10 versions of an icon to 'add new folder' or other actions across their own apps.

at least iOS has great features. Surfacing them though.. I regularly learn new ones from tiktok. For instance i just learned about the motion sickness dots.

https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/


There is definitely a thread globally.

Plenty of these groups pushing these laws are already publicly linked via $ and staffer revolving door: DonorsTrust -> SPN -> ALEC -> CLI -> Heritage -> $ from Dunn & Wilks and other christian millionaires -> continue the circle etc. [6, 7]

Their playbook - which is sadly working:

- far right christian anti-porn, anti-lgbtq crusaders use 'child safety' or revenge porn to organize public outrage and direct that pressure on the choke point of payment processing. For example the writer of the viral pornhub article worked for anti-porn christian group that also helped pass extreme anti lgbtq laws in africa, such as Uganda's gays “should be castrated” insanity [1] - Recent Australian version of this same story. Again, the buried lede is going after queer content (not by accident) [2] - Same in the UK: ADF creates UK branch. CARE, Christin Concern, etc. Same anti-porn, anti-lgbt. Same tactics and messaging. Also throw in anti-abortion. [3, 4] - Groups like Heritage & ALEC & SPN put out the blueprint and write the actual laws. Copy paste across red states. For instance Project 2025 advocates sending porn producers to jail & again backdoors targeting of Trans and queer people [8]. Another example in Tennessee [5]: define drag as adult only. impose narrow worldview that any gender expression not assigned at birth is wrong and adult only (pornagraphic). Just throw away 1a and dare scotus to blink on law 'loopholes' with private right of action b.s.

It's all just to inflict their christian worldview and 'morals' on the rest of us.

You know the porn thing is just a b.s. excuse to get their foot in the door because only a couple of large companies like Aylo (formerly Mindgeek) comply. They are the only porn sites with the $ and morals to actually moderate in the first place.

Whilst the other 99% of the internet is just an open stream of content with no care & no humans in the loop.

Therefore it's all just virtue signaling at best, and personally I see a very organized sinister plot to impose christian rule. Could you imagine if it was a muslim group organizing at this scale? Sharia anyone?

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1 https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/us-far...

2 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/steam-itch-takedowns-credit-ca...

3 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/02/us-anti-abor...

4 https://care.org.uk/cause/online-safety

5 https://time.com/6267962/tennessee-drag-bill-law-hold-friend...

6 https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/donorstrust/

7 https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/SPN_Ties_to_ALEC

8 https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/project-2025-por...


Ah yes, the eternal horseshoe of censorship, where both ends of the political spectrum discover they're passionate defenders of "the children" and "democracy" whenever it's convenient for controlling what others can see and say.

The same payment processor chokepoints and platform pressure tactics you're describing have been gleefully wielded by progressive activists to deplatform "dangerous misinformation," "hate speech," and "extremist content."

Remember when everyone cheered Mastercard and Visa cutting off WikiLeaks? Or Cloudflare and Kiwifarm? Or celebrated when payment processors started dropping anyone deemed "problematic"? The infrastructure for financial censorship didn't materialize overnight when Christian groups discovered it existed.

The left pioneered the modern "advertiser pressure" playbook - organizing campaigns to get platforms to ban everything from "Russian disinformation" to "COVID misinformation" to whatever qualified as this week's "stochastic terrorism." The same NGO-to-government pipeline exists there too: activist groups coordinate with sympathetic staffers, push model legislation, and pressure companies through ESG scores and brand safety concerns.

Both sides have their "think of the children" trump cards. One side waves "grooming" and "pornography," the other waves "radicalization" and "harmful content." Both genuinely believe they're saving society from moral decay, they just disagree violently on what that decay looks like.

The real tragedy is that both camps are so busy fighting their culture war that they've handed unprecedented censorship power to payment processors and tech platforms who answer to no one. Congratulations to both teams - you've successfully created the infrastructure for whoever wins to impose their vision of morality on everyone else.


Yes. I sadly agree with obama: we can survive 4 years. I don't know we can survive 8.

“I think that four years is OK,” Obama said. “Take on some water, but we can kind of bail fast enough to be OK. Eight years would be a problem. I would be concerned about a sustained period in which some of these norms have broken down and started to corrode.”

We're already far beyond some norms breaking down...

Sadly I can't find a great source for that quote. just found it on scmp and jp. weird. I swear I have this memory of that being in politico or nytimes at the time. iirc was from an 'otr' towards the end of his term.


It was indeed an off the record chat, made public.

https://www.benzinga.com/government/22/10/29111070/obamas-ta...


I doubt public demonstrations would do it. They'd have to start losing MAGA cult people for them to change course themselves.

But if we can hold out for 2 years (big if) there's a very strong chance we'll retake the house.

And if things continue down this path (i think it will get worse) we could maybe take back the senate. but the map is very hard.

That would give power to fight back.

If we get a once in a generation swing of seats we could think about getting rid of the filibuster / few remaining norms. Then we could rebalance judicial. But that's a big risk if not sure the power will endure beyond a handful of cycles.


i dont think demonstrations would work either fwiw.

a big swing requires the dems to seem credibly like a real opposition, for people to want an opposition, and for that election result to be untampered.

given how little they've done to stop this so far and how little they're promising to do now, and how shaky the foundations for the elections are in the first place ..

idk, it seems unlikely


> I doubt public demonstrations would do it.

Trump is itching to trigger provisions of the Insurrection Act as far ahead of the mid-term elections as possible. Public demonstrations by anyone associated with the left will achieve nothing right now given the composition of Congress. The best bet is to stand down, and stand by. The ground will probably be fertile for local organizing though.


Trump will send the military in this time and kill protesters. Like he wanted to before.


For backcountry I would love to have another option (and able to stream video and games lol). But I wouldn't drop the garmin for life saving reasons. I * might * if my garmin watch was able to use the garmin sos. Phone + very long lasting / hard to break watch might be enough for 90% of my nights out for me.


Could go the google way, capture an image screenshot of state, ocr, then parse it.

They keep throwing it in my url bar. I refuse to click (big warning it sends to google's servers)


I've thought about 'secular Sabbath.' Low or no technology, community, food, being self sustaining outdoors.

There is a lot of appeal to some practices of the mountain Mennonite/amish in CO where I'm at.

But a lot of those things that appeal to me, and trying to organize something like that, could quickly turn into a prepper cult ;0


'lean' lol.

the wsj opinion section has gone wildly off the rails.

love their journalism. can't read half the crap they allow to be published in opeds.

at a minimum, is it too much to not publish outright provable lies?

it actually feels like a similar persecution complex vibe to these lawsuits and congressional hearings to me

that somehow if we aren't forced to listen to them, or that their megaphone isn't as loud as it once was, that they are being persecuted and censored with the most orwellian oppression in the history of our country! (i can think of a lot of truly terrible things our govt has done... literal internment camps and more! but that is besides the point)

no one has silenced them. we continue to hear it constantly.

i hear more anti gay slurs now - on traditional media and online - than i ever remember growing up as a very obviously gay boy ;0

if anything, whenever someone crows about being 'cancelled' their message is spread even farther.

there isn't a right to amplification.

the next door kook was never promised a full page column in the local paper. with a guaranteed readership of thousands or millions.

any truth filter or higher bar for discourse that might have existed in legacy news media has been smashed

news corp is the leader and biggest offender

the democratization of the megaphone (internet gives any random conspiracist opportunity to reach more than cronkite did), has given many the impression that they are owed this power to yell and be guaranteed a listening and receptive audience.

and anything less is cancelation or "censorship."


> at a minimum, is it too much to not publish outright provable lies?

I'd love to hear some examples. From what I can tell, they don't lie, but they will leave out details that may provide additional context (much like the NYT and WP opinion pages tend to do).

There is a careful line between opinions and facts. From what I can tell, the editorial board doesn't allow outright facts that can be disputed from being published. But things where there may be a disagreement on a given topic, they will allow it to be published.


this is my all time favorite. which i get is a while ago, but i think the nsa cyber will resonate on hn more than current 'hot topics' (gender. biden policies. the guate piece this week really rubbed me the wrong way. worse it was doing the same thing the author critiqued of u.s. insiders lying to support corrupt interests)

the piece: torture and spying is great and stops terrorists! trust me. because of reasons. damned the research saying this isn't true and lack of any proof i could provide as the ultimate insider. that tan suit wearing barack will kill us all!!!

also having the temerity to publish this during peak bush hate too. balls.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/0...

though true that what used to be taken as facts are contested now. and history will never be fully settled timestamped and logged.

it just feels like they are winning with purpose. the christian right has built up an entire infrastructure to churn out 'academic' research, opinion pieces, outright buying news media or creating outlets. all of which is then quoted in judicial opinions by their judges and then taken as the full stop truth; when often most other sources disagree or call it less severe and the source is at a minimum insanely biased


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