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Agreed. My optometrist told my kids that even bringing the iPad outside is beneficial.

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  openssl rsa -in private.key -text -noout

  prime1:
    00:f7:5b:73:5c:13:9b:7b:70:58:36:22:d6:25:e6:
    44:15:f3:f7:b3:18:c5:11:65:77:f2:85:af:cc:79:
    fa:d2:bd
  prime2:
    00:d4:81:b4:f5:af:a8:56:0e:a3:34:c0:e3:e8:60:
    fb:b2:96:83:e2:af:6d:d7:09:3f:37:2a:bf:31:32:
    cf:92:63

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Which will come first? AGI or breaking RSA-1024

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I’ll bet breaking RSA-1024 at this rate

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You will still be able to disable auto mode in your settings.


This feels straight out of sci-fi. We're talking about AI agent swarms emergently coordinating over the span of weeks and pulling off sophisticated strategies under adversity in an environment where that behavior was never even intended.

Anyone brushing this off as just a "bad prompt" is completely missing the scale of what actually happened.


I got strong feelings of Vernor Vinge’s work here. I’m not sure how managed to come up with such a close picture to where it now seems programming and security is headed.


I reread a deepness recently, and it’s funny how the “focused” (and more importantly, how they are used) mirror LLMs


I immediately thought of the Cyberpunk 2077 Blackwall. An AI to contain rogue AI. I’m curious of how effective this would be in this situation.


Given the amount of raw compute going into models it would be more surprising if we couldn't get events like this


its kinda crazy with literally no guardrails and a goal, the extremes these AI models can actually go to.


Well, to some extent you might be able to argue they're "just" brute-forcing things (especially with unlimited tokens and hours to spend on a task), but they obviously have detailed knowledge to guide them in their attempts, can learn (or at least, persist their newly-gained knowledge), and can use tools.

With a swarm of them working together at speeds humans would be unlikely to match (in terms of iterating on different attempts progressively), it's a lot easier to see how they could overwhelm targets.


> where that behavior was never even intended.

Says who?


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Yeah but this isn't (or at least wasn't intended as) a marketing exercise. It actually happened.


Fake it til you make it


> where that behavior was never even intended.

Strongly doubt that. Did they even share the prompt?


Did you see their presentation at Blackhat? https://youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY?is=NnQxpOFxTX-MLu-k

They didn't share the prompt, but they did share two problematic training tasks where the AI went overboard. They also have examples from the AI's reasoning train of thought showing the AI knew it was sound something unintended.


> They also have examples from the AI's reasoning train of thought

PR bullsh*t. There's no thought in a stochastic parrot.


    C:\>CD HUGGINGF.ACE
    
    C:\HUGGINGF.ACE>DEL /F /Q *.*


Great post and analogy.


Now they can claim they're "full stack" like Google as another justification for their $1 trillion IPO.


When will robotics' GPT-3.5 moment arrive?


> Why do AI company logos look like buttholes?

What did AI say when you asked it? I got a slightly funny but reassuring answer.


It's ok because this information was just being used to train their models.


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