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The EU is fucking crap, fuck the EU, fuck von der Leyen


BBC is literally trash, I just ignore everything BBC since a decade and have never regretted it


Why haven't politicians stopped this before? It has taken advantage of the elderly for decades yet the fucking, lowlife politicians has done NOTHING!


How many "father's of the Internet" are there exactly?


The two that are most widely recognized are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, for TCP/IP, but that's just the start of it. There's JCR Licklider, who first imagined a global network of computers. There's Leonard Kleinrock, first ARPANET nod and packet-switching theory. Larry Roberts, who led development of ARPANET. Paul Baran independently invented packet switching. Donald Davies coined the term "packet" and also developed packet switching. Louis Pouzin also worked on TCP/IP. Jon Postel managed the IP standards and address assignments for decades. Ray Tomlinson invented email and the @ sign. Of course, we can't forget Tim Berneres-Lee, to whom we credit the invention of the web (HTTP, HTML, URLS, the first web browser and server).

So, eleven.

The Dream Machine is a history book by M. Mitchell Waldrop that tells the story of JCR Licklider.


Vannevar Bush?


Ooh, hadn't heard of him. From Wikipedia, V. Bush is famous for, among other things, creating the NSF, the memex, an analog microfilm precusor to hypertext, and his essay "As We May Think" in 1945. Definitely influential in the creation of our world today!


Exactly as many as the USA has founding fathers, give or take a few. Which is to say less than in the Fathers of Mercy.


Al Gore is definitely one of them!


> There's always some nincompoop who brings that up. Al Gore deserves credit for what he did as a senator and vice president. He helped to pass legislation that enabled the NSFNET backbone to grow and to permit commercial traffic to flow on the government-sponsored backbones in the US. Had he not done that, it's pretty likely that the commercial sector would not have seen an opportunity to create a commercial internet that all of us can enjoy, so he does deserve some credit for what he's done.

— Vint Cerf, Tracking the Internet into the 21st Century <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf0rjtnwC9A>


> Al Gore is definitely one of them!

Al Gore Jr.'s father, the Sr., was instrumental in enacting the US Interstate Highway system:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gore_Sr.#U.S._Senate

Which transformed the economy for physical goods. Jr saw parallels with the transportation of information, and coined a term (in 1978!) about it:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_techno...


> Al Gore is definitely one of them!

Absolutely correct — and that's not sarcasm or irony. (Gore never claimed to have "invented the Internet"; that was a calumny spread by Republicans.)


1999 CNN interview where Gore stated: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet".


And that was true, within his context as senator. He was instrumental in passing the laws that fostered the Internet.

It’s astonishing, I know, but the heavily-parroted meme was always reductive and is, at this point, misnformation.


You have to wonder about the "Mother of the Internet" at this point...


Ooh, several of those as well! Sibling comment mentions Radia Perlman. She invented Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) which prevents loops in wiring from taking down networks. (Plug an Ethernet cable into the same switch it comes out of.) This has saved everyone's bacon countless times. Elizabeth Feinler managed hostnames before there was DNS and helped establish several of the top level domains (TLD)s we use today. There's Karen Spärck Jones without whom, search engines wouldn't be what they are today. Judy Estrin helped with TCP/IP, Sally Floyd worked on congestion control algorithms, without which, the Internet would have gotten all choked up and never gotten off the ground. Susan Estrada helped commercialize the Internet, with her work on internet exchanges (IX), and Jean Armour Polly gets credit for coining the phrase "surfing the Internet." but should be better known for pioneering public Internet access and for her work with families and kids getting online.

These women played a critical role in creating the Internet we have today.


Radia Perlman is the name that jumps to mind for me, but there are a bunch of others.


I was referring more to the internet having many fathers...


DoD


If anyone still believes the EU is a democracy, you're a bloody fool


If you want to end respiratory infections: eat healthy, exercise, stop smoking, decrease stress, spend time outside in the sun


Are you really under the impression that doing that makes you immune to the flu?


Socialist wet dream. In reality someone has to pay for all these adults wasting time instead of working for a living.


I know this is supposed to be sarcastic, but This is actually a great framing for why we should love our libraries.

They’re decidedly NOT productive to business. They’re yours as a person. They’re your time, your leisure, your enrichment.

I suppose they’re productive to business in the long run because the create more thoughtful and effective people so maybe they’re not all good.

Still, a good reason to lean into them.


It may lead to less demand for things like sewing machines which in turn may lead to less competition to less productivity, the producers innovating less, less GDP less happy people... Where have we seen this type of thinking before... In socialist States... I agree... But how do we create supply and demand? Letting China produce cheaply and open our boarders for a couple of decades, maybe... Maybe we are in a doom loop where we need a poorer generation or two before people turn around... It is interesting times. The most interesting is how people view the same things completely opposite. Some are super happy about the trend others super frustrated... Imho it is a part of the great reset and the big debt cycle. Maybe an attempt to soften the blow?!


Hilarious. Tool libraries exist and are quite successful here in capitalist US of A (and, apparently, in capitalist Finland. You didn't think they were communists or something, did you?)


Neal degass Tyson comes to mind


Pretty scary reading the comments where the majority are DEFENDING Big Food and the poisoning of the humans. You are all despicable people!


Google is pure evil. The worst cyber-villain in human existance.


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