> If everyone was abandoning something 15 years ago, who is left today?
Those that were and are still afraid of such a migration I guess.
I remember using groupwise in the early 2000's at work, it didn't felt much worse than the outlook/exchange and Lotus Notes I have been using later. I think the one particularly worse was Lotus Notes. I think it received some instant messaging just after I left that company but most teams were using rogue jabber/xmpp servers everywhere even on companies that provided Microsoft Lync because the xmpp clients were superior,the experience more reliable and people didn't want to be spied by their bosses/HR teams. It is funny how people have surrendered in most places while nothing prevent them technically to discuss on other instant messaging platforms.
Had I been the one tasked to be admin it may have been quite different. I have no idea about groupwise but I remember Lotus Notes admins had some headaches (but they weren't especially smart or knowledgeable people so it may just be that team and not the product).
Besides I don't think that email and calendaring are technologies where a particular product makes a huge difference. We don't send and receive emails, manage contacts or schedule meetings much differently than 20y ago. The Outlook/exchange combo is popular because of microsoft enterprise licenses and its integration with active directory (and now Azure). It is really Active Directory that is the product that tightly bind every Microsoft Product together and make them so ubiquitous and competitive against alternatives. I don't know how much Micro Focus sell its solution vs on premise exchange + outlook clients licensing and or office 365 (remember that some company still don't want to go cloud).
> Those that were and are still afraid of such a migration I guess.
You can guess how the process occurs.
Some manager: "We need to get rid of GroupWise, so we will create a project"
a while later
Gordonjcp: "This looks much harder than it seems, let's just keep it going a couple more years, here's a plan for getting rid of it, you can put that into action when I retire and in the meantime let's work on reducing our dependence on it"
a while later
prmoustache: "Right, that's that beardy old twat gone, let's get rid of this sodding GroupWise nonsense once and for all. Oh actually, it's tied into quite a lot of other things, according to this plan, let's make a plan to replace all that"
a while later
prmoustache's apprentice: "Right, that's that prmoustache numpty gone, can't believe they never got round to getting rid of GroupWise, let's look at this dusty old plan to - oh, there's really quite a lot of work in that, let's get a contractor in..."
In the case of US Federal Bureau of Prisons, I suspect the actual reason is this: they have over 36,000 employees. When you have that many employees, an email migration project is not going to be cheap. Even at private sector prices, you are looking at a multi-million dollar project; then you have to add the usual federal contracting overhead. But, many other US government agencies used GroupWise too, and they all migrated off it–so very achievable if you have the budget.
Which is probably the real problem – does Congress want to appropriate US$X million so federal prison guards can have a better email system? They did that for heaps of other federal agencies, because those agencies made arguments "our staff will be so much more efficient at catching terrorists/reviewing licensing applications/whatever if we had better IT", and that convinced Congress to appropriate the money, and then the email migration funding came out of that. By contrast, BOP argues "better IT will make us more efficient at rehabilitating prisoners" and Congress goes "yawn, you think we really care about that?..."
> Besides I don't think that email and calendaring are technologies where a particular product makes a huge difference.
It might not be a huge difference, but slower email clients like Outlook and even GMail these days, increase the overhead of communications and make communication less likely. Maybe it's me, but when corporate email is fast, I'll at least open each mail for a quick scan once a day. When corporate email is slow, I'm only going to maybe scan titles.
Also, if Outlook still does things like drain my battery to death if I forget to quit before sleeping, and not work without a restart after a brief sleep with a network change, long startup time means it's unlikely to get started at all. Once that's common, corporate email is no longer a reliable communications method, and that's not great.
I could rant about email products that hide email addresses, as if nobody ever worked with two people with the same first name and last name before, or as if spams and scams didn't routinely use good sounding names when they send from someone's unintentional web to email gateway.
Those that were and are still afraid of such a migration I guess.
I remember using groupwise in the early 2000's at work, it didn't felt much worse than the outlook/exchange and Lotus Notes I have been using later. I think the one particularly worse was Lotus Notes. I think it received some instant messaging just after I left that company but most teams were using rogue jabber/xmpp servers everywhere even on companies that provided Microsoft Lync because the xmpp clients were superior,the experience more reliable and people didn't want to be spied by their bosses/HR teams. It is funny how people have surrendered in most places while nothing prevent them technically to discuss on other instant messaging platforms.
Had I been the one tasked to be admin it may have been quite different. I have no idea about groupwise but I remember Lotus Notes admins had some headaches (but they weren't especially smart or knowledgeable people so it may just be that team and not the product).
Besides I don't think that email and calendaring are technologies where a particular product makes a huge difference. We don't send and receive emails, manage contacts or schedule meetings much differently than 20y ago. The Outlook/exchange combo is popular because of microsoft enterprise licenses and its integration with active directory (and now Azure). It is really Active Directory that is the product that tightly bind every Microsoft Product together and make them so ubiquitous and competitive against alternatives. I don't know how much Micro Focus sell its solution vs on premise exchange + outlook clients licensing and or office 365 (remember that some company still don't want to go cloud).