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Ironically, we'd never know what he said had it not been written down.


Plato gives multiple hints across his works about the esoteric, unwritten teachings [1]. We can only speculate about the content; for me, they were surely tied with the Eleusinian Mysteries [2]: early, myths-driven psychonautics based on ergot.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_unwritten_doctrines

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries


I also think he had a bunch written teachings that were intended only for his students. Obviously they’re lost to time.


With some luck and intelligence maybe we will discover more about the past in the future [1].

[1] https://scrollprize.org


Yeah, I've been excited about this because we're only about a month away until the ink detection deadline.


We would, if we retained an oral tradition (as in the case in that Platonic dialogue).

And even better, we would know it by heart.

Assuning we considered it important of course. But that would be another benefit: it would also filter unimportant works over time.

Of course not everybody would know it by heart. That's a third benefit: only people interested and caring enough would know Plato. Not dilletantes.


I disagree with all of the above.

If we never had writing, would the Huns have carried forth Platonic wisdom? Would it really have survived thousands of years of cultural evolution and the decline of Greek civilization itself? Who even is the "we" who should consider it important?

> that would be another benefit: it would also filter unimportant works over time.

How would it even be possible to know what's been lost in the oral tradition without anyone writing things down? Only takes one autocrat to massacre followers of a specific tradition to effectively erase it. Things get filtered based on their ability to survive, which is partially a function of "importance", whatever that actually means at a given time.

> a third benefit: only people interested and caring enough would know Plato. Not dilletantes.

This just seems like unabashed elitism. A "benefit" of the oral tradition is that knowledge is reserved for the deserving? No thanks.


Yeah, and then some.

Tired Alfred North Whitehead quotes aside, he's basically the single most influential author in the western tradition, arguably even eclipsing the bible.




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