> a much greater injury and death rate attributable to vaccines than COVID.
Explain Australia then, specifically the absence of nation wide injury and death following the short period in which 98% of a population ~ 24 million or so, got two to three rounds of vaccines with a new definition.
Fantastic case study for such widespread ill effects to clearly and unambiguously show up - the country is isolated and has had world class epidemiology researchers plugged into integrated national health records for 50+ years.
Checking back on this thread and wow. The absolutely rabid energy with which Republicans will fabricate information to evade personal moral responsibility for making the COVID death toll worse is incredible.
We have a completely medically illiterate user citing (one) of an endless supply of studies as evidence that vaccines killed people. The study doesn't say that... which isn't surprising because the rest of the literature doesn't either... and nor does the consensus of qualified medical practitioners...
It's as if the prospect of being responsible for contributing to the deaths of countless innocent people made them hallucinate exonerating text.
I wonder if post-genocide states see similar outbursts of insane flights of fiction about basic facts. I imagine they do.
You sound exactly like a preacher. No math, no science.
Seriously, read the thread. Look how hard it is to get people that claim to be on the side of science to do any science! Just do a little math.
Yet you'll tell scientists to their face they are wrong.
A bunch of people who maybe have a degree in marketing giving political opinion as medical advice.
>nor does the consensus of qualified medical practitioners
According to who? Where did you get this from? Aren't you embarrassed to admit that you got it from a media outlet and you've found no such meta study to cite?
According to the consensus, as it appears from the huge amount of research on the topic, COVID RNA treatments exhibit a much higher rate of negative outcomes than traditional vaccines and a higher rate than COVID infection, which mostly goes undetected and causes no symptoms. That's in line with CDC data, and it's according to the CDC statements about the vaccine as well.
The CDC / FDA never made any statements about this treatment being safer than getting COVID for a healthy child or adult as individuals. The purpose of recommending that the risk of treatment was necessary, is for the protection of those with weakened immune systems through herd immunity. For the public good, essentially.
Everything I've said here is backed by the FDA and CDC websites, and you can very easily confirm it. Please do so.
You WANT to be on the side of science, and I love that, but it looks to me like you are on the side of a media conglomerate instead. They've told you that they are the arbiter of science, and you believe them.
What was that injury rate in Australia, how many of the > 20 million vaccine recipients died or were injured by vaccines.
Where are these deaths and injuries greater in magnitude than COVID deaths and injuries?
I cannot answer for you or your governments odd notions. Feel free to concentrate on actually making and landing a solid point with peer commenter azan.
I've landed inarguable points with azan but I'm sure they aren't a "peer" by any definition. Claiming to have a PhD online isn't difficult. But you'll note they went silent when asked to check CDC data.
What about Australia? Want to check that data? Does Australia have a freedom of information system where we can get their data and is it open for doctors to report or is the data cleaned first before it's published?
Let's download it and see what it really says. Plenty of free SQL servers available, and today even people that don't write code can get an LLM to help.
Jump in and be scientist! Are you willing or were you just here to pose like the media told you to?
Explain Australia then, specifically the absence of nation wide injury and death following the short period in which 98% of a population ~ 24 million or so, got two to three rounds of vaccines with a new definition.
Fantastic case study for such widespread ill effects to clearly and unambiguously show up - the country is isolated and has had world class epidemiology researchers plugged into integrated national health records for 50+ years.