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My first framework was actually in Turbo Pascal (Turbo Vision).

Since then I have used:

- Turbo Vision - C++ as well

- Object Windows Library in Turbo Pascal and C++

- Microsoft Foundation Classes in C++

- An in-house framework done in TCL and C

- An in-house framework done in C

- An in-house framework done in a mixture of Perl, C++ and CORBA

- J2EE in Java

- An in-house framework in Java for web development

- ... (lost count of all remaining ones)

The desire for frameworks is something that runs deep with enterprise architects.

How many corporations tend to have architects that take a nice framework and always have to put their own layer on top of it as well.



I thought that OWL (at least the Pascal version) was pretty reasonable for what it did.

I can understand the frustration with Java, though. The first time I started reading through "web.xml", I thought it was a bit much. Then I read the EJB specs...

Struts, at least the older versions I've had to maintain, is a nightmare. RoR seemed to have a lot less BS to do the same thing.


Yeah, OWL was miles ahead of MFC.




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